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	<title>Comments on: How to write like a man</title>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2009/01/05/how_to_write_like_a_man/#comment-18724</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, Steve, I gotta read your site more often.

Just today I wrote a piece saying &lt;a href=&quot;http://joesschool.blogs.com/olsononline/2009/01/anna-griffin-impresses-me.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Anna Griffin impresses me&lt;/a&gt;, and used her latest column (about Sam Adams and education) as an example why.  I like her style.  And her clarity.  (She doesn&#039;t mumble.)

I tend to agree with Lelo.  But what the hey.  Everyone has an opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, Steve, I gotta read your site more often.</p>
<p>Just today I wrote a piece saying <a href="http://joesschool.blogs.com/olsononline/2009/01/anna-griffin-impresses-me.html" rel="nofollow">Anna Griffin impresses me</a>, and used her latest column (about Sam Adams and education) as an example why.  I like her style.  And her clarity.  (She doesn&#8217;t mumble.)</p>
<p>I tend to agree with Lelo.  But what the hey.  Everyone has an opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Griffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think I had that very talk with my child before dawn this morning:

&quot;I&#039;m sorry I called you a butthead. Mommy used poor language, because sometimes she&#039;s an idiot. But please don&#039;t repeat that behavior.&quot;

That doesn&#039;t seem insubstantial or disingenuous to me. Rather, it seems like a conversation both sides can learn from.

I like Amanda. I voted for her. As a taxpayer and as a woman, I want her to succeed. I should have used more precise, less gender-loaded language. But I also believe she needs to recognize that at times what you accurately term her &quot;steady ferocity&quot; can, at its most extreme, work against the very causes she&#039;s trying to support. There&#039;s a difference between being an activist and a leader, and bringing her activist&#039;s skills into a leadership role -- learning to challenge and push and prod while also building consensus -- is the task ahead of her.

Personally, I think she can do it.

Also: Oregonian columnists -- even those of us who mumble and lack substance -- have permanent websites so our stuff doesn&#039;t disappear after 14 days.

Thanks for reading. Love the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think I had that very talk with my child before dawn this morning:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry I called you a butthead. Mommy used poor language, because sometimes she&#8217;s an idiot. But please don&#8217;t repeat that behavior.&#8221;</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t seem insubstantial or disingenuous to me. Rather, it seems like a conversation both sides can learn from.</p>
<p>I like Amanda. I voted for her. As a taxpayer and as a woman, I want her to succeed. I should have used more precise, less gender-loaded language. But I also believe she needs to recognize that at times what you accurately term her &#8220;steady ferocity&#8221; can, at its most extreme, work against the very causes she&#8217;s trying to support. There&#8217;s a difference between being an activist and a leader, and bringing her activist&#8217;s skills into a leadership role &#8212; learning to challenge and push and prod while also building consensus &#8212; is the task ahead of her.</p>
<p>Personally, I think she can do it.</p>
<p>Also: Oregonian columnists &#8212; even those of us who mumble and lack substance &#8212; have permanent websites so our stuff doesn&#8217;t disappear after 14 days.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading. Love the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Lelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2009/01/05/how_to_write_like_a_man/#comment-18721</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve learned something in life, which I try to teach my children: Don&#039;t repeat the insult when apologizing for it.

Imagine it in the voice of a child: &quot;I apologize for calling you a butt head. But you really can be a butt head. Anyway, sorry I called you a butt head. Just don&#039;t be a butt head, OK?&quot;

That&#039;s pretty much what Griffin is saying. It&#039;s a non-apology, completely lacking in substance and humility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve learned something in life, which I try to teach my children: Don&#8217;t repeat the insult when apologizing for it.</p>
<p>Imagine it in the voice of a child: &#8220;I apologize for calling you a butt head. But you really can be a butt head. Anyway, sorry I called you a butt head. Just don&#8217;t be a butt head, OK?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty much what Griffin is saying. It&#8217;s a non-apology, completely lacking in substance and humility.</p>
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		<title>By: Lelo</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2009/01/05/how_to_write_like_a_man/#comment-18720</link>
		<dc:creator>Lelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Anna&#039;s apology column and came away with an entirely different reaction: I thought it was honest, human and thoughtful. I think it&#039;s easy in the professional world (including old school journalism) for women to succumb to stupid old boy ways, comments and thinking, even when we don&#039;t recognize it. This shit is so embedded into our lives that sometimes we ourselves end up participating in it. I think it takes guts to admit when you&#039;re wrong, to put it out there like Anna did, and to have a little humor about it. I found it refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Anna&#8217;s apology column and came away with an entirely different reaction: I thought it was honest, human and thoughtful. I think it&#8217;s easy in the professional world (including old school journalism) for women to succumb to stupid old boy ways, comments and thinking, even when we don&#8217;t recognize it. This shit is so embedded into our lives that sometimes we ourselves end up participating in it. I think it takes guts to admit when you&#8217;re wrong, to put it out there like Anna did, and to have a little humor about it. I found it refreshing.</p>
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