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		<title>By: Wacky Mommy</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/10/23/blogging_journalism_and_the_new_media_landscape/#comment-18540</link>
		<dc:creator>Wacky Mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked at Thee O for a number of years (almost 8) and having been told daily, &quot;That&#039;s not a story&quot; when I pitched an idea (or 400. Those of you who read my blog or my comments here are well-aware of how my ramped-up brain works) -- well, I am not sad to see the Big Boys and Girls lurching around trying to cover their asses. 

&quot;Don&#039;t be caught/with your drawers down&quot; -- Tom Waits

What was I told was &quot;not a story&quot; during the years I was there? (1990-1998.) In no particular order: the bands Nirvana, Soundgarden and Sonic Youth; the whole &quot;Seattle sound&quot; thing (who? what? They did eventually write stories about Kurt Cobain -- after he was dead); the &quot;new hippie children&quot; and the band Phish; methamphetamine and its impact on children and the foster care system; drug houses and hazmat concerns; the rise of autism; ecstasy and raves, anyone? (my friends were a little wild, not me! I swear); moshing; a profile of the band Smegma, a story that would never fly because the O refused to print the band&#039;s name (one of my bosses, copyediting, shouted out, &quot;Is Smegma a bad word?&quot; which made me laugh my ass off; the overuse of Ritalin; the whole ADD/ADHD thing; uh, tattoos? (I finally wrote that one, leading to Much Excitement and 8,000 more stories by others on &quot;the hip, the young, the tattooed and pierced!&quot;); the writer Blake Nelson; suicide -- its taboos and impact on families... Honestly. I mean, honestly.

I was Idea Girl, and they shot down probably ninety percent of the stories I pitched. (And I am a team pitcher, by the way -- no one person would be capable of writing all the stories I dream up or come across.)

Then they would kvetch about a lack of &quot;hot&quot; stories. &quot;What&#039;s hot?&quot; Me: &quot;Not you, baby.&quot;

Sorry to grouse, but honest to Blog -- cyberspace has been a godsend.

We used to have bumperstickers all over the newsroom that said &quot;If it matters to Oregonians, it&#039;s in the Washington Post&quot; (they&#039;re the ones who broke the Packwood story). Now we can say, &quot;If it matters to Oregonians, it&#039;s on the blogs.&quot;

To quote Mark Zusman of Willamette Week: &quot;There are a lot of talented people at the Oregonian ... I just wonder what the hell they&#039;re all doing.&quot;

Now we know -- they&#039;re taking the buy-out and flying. To-be-replaced with minimum wage clerks, &quot;reporting&quot; the &quot;big news&quot;? (No union = clerks writing stories. That&#039;s how I did it when I was there.)

Good luck at SPJ! Sounds lively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked at Thee O for a number of years (almost 8) and having been told daily, &#8220;That&#8217;s not a story&#8221; when I pitched an idea (or 400. Those of you who read my blog or my comments here are well-aware of how my ramped-up brain works) &#8212; well, I am not sad to see the Big Boys and Girls lurching around trying to cover their asses. </p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t be caught/with your drawers down&#8221; &#8212; Tom Waits</p>
<p>What was I told was &#8220;not a story&#8221; during the years I was there? (1990-1998.) In no particular order: the bands Nirvana, Soundgarden and Sonic Youth; the whole &#8220;Seattle sound&#8221; thing (who? what? They did eventually write stories about Kurt Cobain &#8212; after he was dead); the &#8220;new hippie children&#8221; and the band Phish; methamphetamine and its impact on children and the foster care system; drug houses and hazmat concerns; the rise of autism; ecstasy and raves, anyone? (my friends were a little wild, not me! I swear); moshing; a profile of the band Smegma, a story that would never fly because the O refused to print the band&#8217;s name (one of my bosses, copyediting, shouted out, &#8220;Is Smegma a bad word?&#8221; which made me laugh my ass off; the overuse of Ritalin; the whole ADD/ADHD thing; uh, tattoos? (I finally wrote that one, leading to Much Excitement and 8,000 more stories by others on &#8220;the hip, the young, the tattooed and pierced!&#8221;); the writer Blake Nelson; suicide &#8212; its taboos and impact on families&#8230; Honestly. I mean, honestly.</p>
<p>I was Idea Girl, and they shot down probably ninety percent of the stories I pitched. (And I am a team pitcher, by the way &#8212; no one person would be capable of writing all the stories I dream up or come across.)</p>
<p>Then they would kvetch about a lack of &#8220;hot&#8221; stories. &#8220;What&#8217;s hot?&#8221; Me: &#8220;Not you, baby.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry to grouse, but honest to Blog &#8212; cyberspace has been a godsend.</p>
<p>We used to have bumperstickers all over the newsroom that said &#8220;If it matters to Oregonians, it&#8217;s in the Washington Post&#8221; (they&#8217;re the ones who broke the Packwood story). Now we can say, &#8220;If it matters to Oregonians, it&#8217;s on the blogs.&#8221;</p>
<p>To quote Mark Zusman of Willamette Week: &#8220;There are a lot of talented people at the Oregonian &#8230; I just wonder what the hell they&#8217;re all doing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now we know &#8212; they&#8217;re taking the buy-out and flying. To-be-replaced with minimum wage clerks, &#8220;reporting&#8221; the &#8220;big news&#8221;? (No union = clerks writing stories. That&#8217;s how I did it when I was there.)</p>
<p>Good luck at SPJ! Sounds lively.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Richter</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/10/23/blogging_journalism_and_the_new_media_landscape/#comment-18539</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Richter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I could be there to see you in action; can&#039;t wait to hear the reports afterwards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I could be there to see you in action; can&#8217;t wait to hear the reports afterwards!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/10/23/blogging_journalism_and_the_new_media_landscape/#comment-18538</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh heh heh... Putting Bog and Bunster on the same program would be, uh, interesting, to say the least.

The only bloggers I know on the program are those mentioned above. Here&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://spjoregon.org/presenters/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;full list of presenters&lt;/a&gt;, mostly editors and reporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh heh heh&#8230; Putting Bog and Bunster on the same program would be, uh, interesting, to say the least.</p>
<p>The only bloggers I know on the program are those mentioned above. Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://spjoregon.org/presenters/" rel="nofollow">full list of presenters</a>, mostly editors and reporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on the Eugene gig, citizen journalist Steve.  I can&#039;t think of a more deserving blogger.  (And please don&#039;t spoil my elation by suddenly remembering that local celebrity blogger Jack Bog is also on the docket.)

Good post.  I expect you to follow up with a report next week on what transpired at Building a Better Journalist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the Eugene gig, citizen journalist Steve.  I can&#8217;t think of a more deserving blogger.  (And please don&#8217;t spoil my elation by suddenly remembering that local celebrity blogger Jack Bog is also on the docket.)</p>
<p>Good post.  I expect you to follow up with a report next week on what transpired at Building a Better Journalist.</p>
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