Comments on: A Bad Case of Iowa Envy http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/01/05/a_bad_case_of_iowa_envy/ Peace, Justice and Hockey Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:09:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Terry http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/01/05/a_bad_case_of_iowa_envy/#comment-15764 Terry Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:23:59 +0000 http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/01/05/a_bad_case_of_iowa_envy/#comment-15764 The reason turnout was so huge, T.A., may have had at least something to do with Bush fatigue. You have yet to make a convincing case that Obama is a progressive in the true sense of the word. His record and his stand on the issues indicates otherwise. The reason turnout was so huge, T.A., may have had at least something to do with Bush fatigue. You have yet to make a convincing case that Obama is a progressive in the true sense of the word. His record and his stand on the issues indicates otherwise.

]]> By: Steve http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/01/05/a_bad_case_of_iowa_envy/#comment-15753 Steve Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:54:00 +0000 http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/01/05/a_bad_case_of_iowa_envy/#comment-15753 Great analysis, Ben. Any prognostications? I can't help but suspect the Clintons will do just about anything to get Hill elected. Will they kneecap Obama somehow? It is interesting how your one sentence about Kucinich's PBS commentary makes you a Kucinich supporter. Isn't it funny how mainstream Dems are absolutely mortified of progressive candidates? Great analysis, Ben.

Any prognostications? I can’t help but suspect the Clintons will do just about anything to get Hill elected. Will they kneecap Obama somehow?

It is interesting how your one sentence about Kucinich’s PBS commentary makes you a Kucinich supporter. Isn’t it funny how mainstream Dems are absolutely mortified of progressive candidates?

]]> By: t.a. barnhart http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/01/05/a_bad_case_of_iowa_envy/#comment-15742 t.a. barnhart Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:16:05 +0000 http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2008/01/05/a_bad_case_of_iowa_envy/#comment-15742 it's gotten sad how after 5 years, Kucinich supporters still think there's a big conspiracy to keep him out of debates and away from the top of the ballot. in 2003, Howard Dean started about 2 miles behind Kucinch, got nothing but disdain and mockery from the media, hatred from the Beltway Dems -- and love from the 'roots. Kucinich failed in the same effort, and yet somehow it's part of a conspiracy. of course there's a lot of manipulation that goes on. it's politics. you have to find ways to work past that. Obama did it by tapping into the progressive grassroots desire for a better form of govt -- and once again, Kucinich failed to do the same. the media did not give this to Obama. ordinary Americans did it. go ahead and mock him, but the reason turn-out in Iowa was so huge -- 80,000 more than 2004, and even Hillary got more votes than Huckabee -- is that Obama's message and person excite and inspire. Kucinich? not so much. it’s gotten sad how after 5 years, Kucinich supporters still think there’s a big conspiracy to keep him out of debates and away from the top of the ballot. in 2003, Howard Dean started about 2 miles behind Kucinch, got nothing but disdain and mockery from the media, hatred from the Beltway Dems — and love from the ‘roots. Kucinich failed in the same effort, and yet somehow it’s part of a conspiracy.

of course there’s a lot of manipulation that goes on. it’s politics. you have to find ways to work past that. Obama did it by tapping into the progressive grassroots desire for a better form of govt — and once again, Kucinich failed to do the same. the media did not give this to Obama. ordinary Americans did it. go ahead and mock him, but the reason turn-out in Iowa was so huge — 80,000 more than 2004, and even Hillary got more votes than Huckabee — is that Obama’s message and person excite and inspire. Kucinich? not so much.

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