Comments on: Oregonian: a Day Late and a Dollar Short

By: Tonya

Tonya — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:51:39 +0000

If it makes you feel better, I found you via OregonLive’s Reddit. :)

By: BlackFriend

BlackFriend — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:38:36 +0000

one of their featured blogs on OregonLive is that black girl, wherein a black woman spouts all of her race-related self-hate. I don’t think it’s a coinky-dink that oregonlive links to a site where a black person basically co-signs every racist belief about black people.

conspiracy theorist, nope, not me.

By: Wacky Mommy

Wacky Mommy — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 05:57:11 +0000

I would say it’s one of the worst websites In. The. WORLD!

By: Sara

Sara — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:38:16 +0000

I think betsy is correct; with rare exceptions, the O writers don’t get control over their work when it gets sucked into the OLive vortex.

Steve’s comment about Live being the “bastard stepchild” is right on, too. It is, hands down, the worst website in Oregon.

By: Steve

Steve — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:53:19 +0000

That’s not entirely true, Betsy. The Oregonian and OregonLive.com are owned by Newhouse, and though they are run independently, Oregonian staff has certain leeway in making the site theirs. See the pimpage for school choice the Oregonian’s education team put together on OregonLive, for example, complete with hyperlinks and other interactive Web features. Very 1997 functionally, but still, it’s way better than most of OregonLive.

I understand this was just a quickie mid-week living cover, which is generally throw away crap. But that’s kind of the point… they put out a paper every day, whether they’ve got worthy stuff to print or not. That story wasn’t even up to the standards of a metblogs post, but their going to kill a few hundred tree to print it.

OregonLive is clearly Newhouse’s bastard step-child compared to the Pulitzer-winning O. Newhouse’s corporate-wide timidity with the Web reflects incredibly badly on their papers, and will probably be their downfall.

By: Betsy

Betsy — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:27:35 +0000

Steve, like the rest of the folks at The O, have no control over how their stuff shows up on OLive. O content is licensed to OLive like any other syndication deal; OLive gets to do with it as they will without any pesky reporters or editors or the like standing over their shoulders directing what should be linked, etc.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:39:57 +0000

If you’ve got Steve Woodward in your back pocket, Betsy, maybe you could teach him what an URL is, and why they are important for finding things on the World Wide Web. You might also teach him about hyperlinks, and how if you click on them, you can actually read the sites they link to and learn a little about the subject at hand.

Just sayin’.

By: Wacky Mommy

Wacky Mommy — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:31:22 +0000

Casey, I think you’re pretty, too!

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:43:21 +0000

My blog was mentioned… as a sports blog. (Anyone takes a cursory glance at this blog knows this ain’t a sports blog.)

Kevin, in the print edition, the article was laid out like a blog, complete with graphics stolen from blogger.com, simulated hyperlinks and a sidebar. The real irony is that this is all lost on the Web, including the hyperlinks.

How the hell can you write an article about the Web and not include a single hyperlink in the Web version? Now that’s pathetic.

By: Casey

Casey — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:55:03 +0000

It’s one thing to complain about the content of the article. There are points to be made on that end. But it’s rather pathetic to complain that your blog wasn’t mentioned within the article. Very petty.