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	<title>Comments on: Sten Doesn&#8217;t Get It Either</title>
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		<title>By: Anne T</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/07/26/sten_doesnt_get_it_either/#comment-8810</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 05:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I noticed about Sten's proposal is that he wanted to  help fund building a new school in the Pearl 
District that would attract "wealthy parents" who might move to the Pearl.  I cannot begin to talk about how stupid this is...but for a start let's talk about what schools are near there: Chapman, MLC and Emerson. Then ask a few simple questions: are over 50 children even living in the Pearl now?  Were they planning on starting a school for dogs, because there are more dogs than children there? And what real estate developer has Sten promised this contract to? 
Everyone's comments about the destruct role of PSF and the utter disappointment of Sten thinking that PSF actually speaks for the public schools around here was absolutely right.
Anne T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I noticed about Sten&#8217;s proposal is that he wanted to  help fund building a new school in the Pearl<br />
District that would attract &#8220;wealthy parents&#8221; who might move to the Pearl.  I cannot begin to talk about how stupid this is&#8230;but for a start let&#8217;s talk about what schools are near there: Chapman, MLC and Emerson. Then ask a few simple questions: are over 50 children even living in the Pearl now?  Were they planning on starting a school for dogs, because there are more dogs than children there? And what real estate developer has Sten promised this contract to?<br />
Everyone&#8217;s comments about the destruct role of PSF and the utter disappointment of Sten thinking that PSF actually speaks for the public schools around here was absolutely right.<br />
Anne T</p>
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		<title>By: Himself</title>
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		<dc:creator>Himself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 06:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't been a big fan of Sten in general. I like his idealism, but his execution is lacking. And he doesn't appear well-informed about the nature and scope of the problems with PPS (of course, that also describes some members of the school board).

I just want one leader &#8212; a school board member, city or county commissioner, metro councilor, business leader, anyone &#8212; to come right out and acknowledge that open transfers have created a segregated school system with state funding flowing freely out of Portland's poorest neighborhoods and into the richest. Again, I point out: &lt;em&gt;we don't have a black majority attendance area in Portland, but we do have majority black schools&lt;/em&gt;.

School closures, segregation and inequity in Portland are not about demographics. This is about PPS policy. If you want to keep state tax revenue in these neighborhoods, you've &lt;em&gt;got&lt;/em&gt; to address the transfer policy.

Now, if Sten can be educated, I'm all for working with him. 

Here are some tips, Eric. First, don't give the dough to PSF. If you do, make damn sure you watch what they do with it. Joe Hill nailed it above.

If you want to invest in new schools, forget about SoWhat. Maybe start with a model neighborhood elementary school on the Whitaker site instead.

Most of all, if you want to help Portland Public Schools, challenge the school board to do the right thing. Call them out on the policy that robs state dollars from our working-class neighborhoods and gives it to the rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been a big fan of Sten in general. I like his idealism, but his execution is lacking. And he doesn&#8217;t appear well-informed about the nature and scope of the problems with PPS (of course, that also describes some members of the school board).</p>
<p>I just want one leader &mdash; a school board member, city or county commissioner, metro councilor, business leader, anyone &mdash; to come right out and acknowledge that open transfers have created a segregated school system with state funding flowing freely out of Portland&#8217;s poorest neighborhoods and into the richest. Again, I point out: <em>we don&#8217;t have a black majority attendance area in Portland, but we do have majority black schools</em>.</p>
<p>School closures, segregation and inequity in Portland are not about demographics. This is about PPS policy. If you want to keep state tax revenue in these neighborhoods, you&#8217;ve <em>got</em> to address the transfer policy.</p>
<p>Now, if Sten can be educated, I&#8217;m all for working with him. </p>
<p>Here are some tips, Eric. First, don&#8217;t give the dough to PSF. If you do, make damn sure you watch what they do with it. Joe Hill nailed it above.</p>
<p>If you want to invest in new schools, forget about SoWhat. Maybe start with a model neighborhood elementary school on the Whitaker site instead.</p>
<p>Most of all, if you want to help Portland Public Schools, challenge the school board to do the right thing. Call them out on the policy that robs state dollars from our working-class neighborhoods and gives it to the rich.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/07/26/sten_doesnt_get_it_either/#comment-8651</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 05:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruth Adkins has been a big fan of Sten's initiatives to provide low cost housing to stem the flow of families from Portland.  I have, too.  But I agree that this proposal does too little to address the problem of enrollment loss in low income inner city schools.

I'm surprised that he wants to give such a relatively large sum to the Portland Schools Foundation.  I think that he needs some educating on the role of the Foundation in local school politics. 

BTW,  I'd advise you to ignore anything Jack Bog has to say about the city or Erik Sten, or "Opie", as he calls him.  He's a cynic of he worst sort.  I noticed that you used one of his favorite appellations for Sam "the Tram" Adams in a recent post.  At the same time, Wacky called him a breath of fresh air.  I sincerely think not. 

Contrary to Jack's warning, I believe Sten is someone we can work with to improve public education in Portland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruth Adkins has been a big fan of Sten&#8217;s initiatives to provide low cost housing to stem the flow of families from Portland.  I have, too.  But I agree that this proposal does too little to address the problem of enrollment loss in low income inner city schools.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that he wants to give such a relatively large sum to the Portland Schools Foundation.  I think that he needs some educating on the role of the Foundation in local school politics. </p>
<p>BTW,  I&#8217;d advise you to ignore anything Jack Bog has to say about the city or Erik Sten, or &#8220;Opie&#8221;, as he calls him.  He&#8217;s a cynic of he worst sort.  I noticed that you used one of his favorite appellations for Sam &#8220;the Tram&#8221; Adams in a recent post.  At the same time, Wacky called him a breath of fresh air.  I sincerely think not. </p>
<p>Contrary to Jack&#8217;s warning, I believe Sten is someone we can work with to improve public education in Portland.</p>
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		<title>By: Zarwen</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/07/26/sten_doesnt_get_it_either/#comment-8650</link>
		<dc:creator>Zarwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  What will the requirements be for these "grants," and who will qualify?  Sten might have good intentions, but giving $ to PSF guarantees it will not go where he intends it to go.  Just more "business as usual" over at PSF.  Oh, and be sure to check out Beth Slovic's interview with Connie van Brunt on wweek.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  What will the requirements be for these &#8220;grants,&#8221; and who will qualify?  Sten might have good intentions, but giving $ to PSF guarantees it will not go where he intends it to go.  Just more &#8220;business as usual&#8221; over at PSF.  Oh, and be sure to check out Beth Slovic&#8217;s interview with Connie van Brunt on wweek.com</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Hill</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/07/26/sten_doesnt_get_it_either/#comment-8649</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today's Oregonian says:

"Most of the money, $950,000, will go to the Portland Schools Foundation for grants aimed at promoting neighborhood schools."

Given the Portland Schools Foundation's track record on supporting charter schools, the so-called "school choice" movement, etc., this is analogous to giving Michael Vick a medium-size grant to promote animal welfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s Oregonian says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Most of the money, $950,000, will go to the Portland Schools Foundation for grants aimed at promoting neighborhood schools.&#8221;</p>
<p>Given the Portland Schools Foundation&#8217;s track record on supporting charter schools, the so-called &#8220;school choice&#8221; movement, etc., this is analogous to giving Michael Vick a medium-size grant to promote animal welfare.</p>
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		<title>By: Himself</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/07/26/sten_doesnt_get_it_either/#comment-8647</link>
		<dc:creator>Himself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If you can afford a private school...&lt;/em&gt;

Which leaves the rest of us (i.e. the majority of Portland)... where? 

Some of us haven't given up on PPS, and we're going to keep working to reverse its policies that rob from poor neighborhoods and give to the rich. There's no reason Portland can't have a great school system that works for everybody. We just need the political will to make it so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If you can afford a private school&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Which leaves the rest of us (i.e. the majority of Portland)&#8230; where? </p>
<p>Some of us haven&#8217;t given up on PPS, and we&#8217;re going to keep working to reverse its policies that rob from poor neighborhoods and give to the rich. There&#8217;s no reason Portland can&#8217;t have a great school system that works for everybody. We just need the political will to make it so.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Bog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Bog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most upper-middle class folks and higher have pretty much given up on the public schools in Portland.  There's too much drama, all the time.  If you can afford a private school that you know does a good job and you know isn't going to be threatened with closure every other year, that's how it's done any more.  Too bad.

Don't let Sten get too involved in the schools.  He has screwed up everything he's meddled with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most upper-middle class folks and higher have pretty much given up on the public schools in Portland.  There&#8217;s too much drama, all the time.  If you can afford a private school that you know does a good job and you know isn&#8217;t going to be threatened with closure every other year, that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s done any more.  Too bad.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let Sten get too involved in the schools.  He has screwed up everything he&#8217;s meddled with.</p>
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