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		<title>By: MamaToo</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/04/14/the_church_north_portland_and_me_the_atheist/#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>MamaToo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, george, I like the concept of fixing the &quot;outcome,&quot; but how do we do that?  And if we&#039;re new to the neighborhood, how do we honor the history while supporting good change?
himself - write more.  you&#039;re a good history teacher of NoPo reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, george, I like the concept of fixing the &#8220;outcome,&#8221; but how do we do that?  And if we&#8217;re new to the neighborhood, how do we honor the history while supporting good change?<br />
himself &#8211; write more.  you&#8217;re a good history teacher of NoPo reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Himself</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/04/14/the_church_north_portland_and_me_the_atheist/#comment-4401</link>
		<dc:creator>Himself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>george wrote: &quot;the trick is not to prevent change, but to make sure that the winners are those who deserve to win, and the losers are those who deserve to lose.&quot;

That&#039;s a neat trick, George! :)

If you figure it out, make sure you share with the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>george wrote: &#8220;the trick is not to prevent change, but to make sure that the winners are those who deserve to win, and the losers are those who deserve to lose.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a neat trick, George! :)</p>
<p>If you figure it out, make sure you share with the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: george</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/04/14/the_church_north_portland_and_me_the_atheist/#comment-4394</link>
		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mamatoo,

i think you raise some good points. i think good planning linked to economic policies that promote justice is the best way to deal with the downsides of gentrification. 

the conditions extant in north portland in the 90&#039;s were the result of economic policies that intentionally impoverished the area. now that money is pouring into the neighborhood, the communities here are faced with some terrible choices. 

not that i have any good solutions... but i see my neighbors look at the value of their homes, worth 10x what they were worth only 5 years ago, and struggle with the choices. should they sell out? lots of them want to sell to people in the community- but those people arent buying! 

another point i want to make is that change is a constant with cities. the chapel of the chimes was not originally an african american business. the storefront churches were originally stores. the trick is not to prevent change, but to make sure that the winners are those who deserve to win, and the losers are those who deserve to lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mamatoo,</p>
<p>i think you raise some good points. i think good planning linked to economic policies that promote justice is the best way to deal with the downsides of gentrification. </p>
<p>the conditions extant in north portland in the 90&#8242;s were the result of economic policies that intentionally impoverished the area. now that money is pouring into the neighborhood, the communities here are faced with some terrible choices. </p>
<p>not that i have any good solutions&#8230; but i see my neighbors look at the value of their homes, worth 10x what they were worth only 5 years ago, and struggle with the choices. should they sell out? lots of them want to sell to people in the community- but those people arent buying! </p>
<p>another point i want to make is that change is a constant with cities. the chapel of the chimes was not originally an african american business. the storefront churches were originally stores. the trick is not to prevent change, but to make sure that the winners are those who deserve to win, and the losers are those who deserve to lose.</p>
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		<title>By: MamaToo</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/04/14/the_church_north_portland_and_me_the_atheist/#comment-4212</link>
		<dc:creator>MamaToo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, I seem to walk myself into these discussions knowing that it is going to fan a flame, but here goes (in the best spirit possible)...
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Gentrification can only be dealt with in terms of urban planning and regulation.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;
I respectfully disagree &lt;i&gt; in part &lt;/i&gt;.  Absolutely, these are key parts of dealing with it, and frankly I think PDX does a better job than many cities in the world (not that it&#039;s fantastic).  
However, another (maybe more important) piece is helping generationally-impoverished people groups, regions, and neighborhoods improve.  People - not just in the US - have done a very poor job of promoting prosperity, innovation, and growth in the midst of valuing culture and history.  The result seems to have one of two attitudes: 1) &quot;either change with us and follow our ideas, or we&#039;ll abandon you&quot;  or 2) &quot;we want nothing to do with your fancy green coffee shops; leave us to ourselves.&quot;    
The tragic result is more segregation, more fear, and a deeply widening gap between races and economic strata.  Generations grow up, and we see a common trebd: they get educated and return to their old neighborhoods (or into new ones), hoping to improve the situation they see.  They&#039;re faced with racism or fear - often hearing &quot;get your new-fandangled ideas out of here!&quot;  
The other option is they stay put, follow in the failing footsteps of those who are dying, and the cycle intensifies.
It shouldn&#039;t be either/or; how about both/and?!  We need to be willing to really hear people&#039;s concerns (even if we disagree with what we hear) and open to compromising for the good of our whole community and future generations.  
Real cooperative action by real people - existing and new in a community - will do a lot more than laws or codes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, I seem to walk myself into these discussions knowing that it is going to fan a flame, but here goes (in the best spirit possible)&#8230;<br />
<i>&#8220;Gentrification can only be dealt with in terms of urban planning and regulation.&#8221; </i><br />
I respectfully disagree <i> in part </i>.  Absolutely, these are key parts of dealing with it, and frankly I think PDX does a better job than many cities in the world (not that it&#8217;s fantastic).<br />
However, another (maybe more important) piece is helping generationally-impoverished people groups, regions, and neighborhoods improve.  People &#8211; not just in the US &#8211; have done a very poor job of promoting prosperity, innovation, and growth in the midst of valuing culture and history.  The result seems to have one of two attitudes: 1) &#8220;either change with us and follow our ideas, or we&#8217;ll abandon you&#8221;  or 2) &#8220;we want nothing to do with your fancy green coffee shops; leave us to ourselves.&#8221;<br />
The tragic result is more segregation, more fear, and a deeply widening gap between races and economic strata.  Generations grow up, and we see a common trebd: they get educated and return to their old neighborhoods (or into new ones), hoping to improve the situation they see.  They&#8217;re faced with racism or fear &#8211; often hearing &#8220;get your new-fandangled ideas out of here!&#8221;<br />
The other option is they stay put, follow in the failing footsteps of those who are dying, and the cycle intensifies.<br />
It shouldn&#8217;t be either/or; how about both/and?!  We need to be willing to really hear people&#8217;s concerns (even if we disagree with what we hear) and open to compromising for the good of our whole community and future generations.<br />
Real cooperative action by real people &#8211; existing and new in a community &#8211; will do a lot more than laws or codes.</p>
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		<title>By: Himself</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/04/14/the_church_north_portland_and_me_the_atheist/#comment-3871</link>
		<dc:creator>Himself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentrification can only be dealt with in terms of urban planning and regulation. For instance, when there is an urban renewal district that changes zoning and displaces low-income housing, what measures are taken to compensate?

Here&#039;s one small example:

In the case of the Interstate Corridor Urban Renewal Area (ICURA), New Seasons got a variance that reduced low- and moderate-income housing opportunities in the neighborhood. As zoned and envisioned by planners, that corner lot at Rosa Parks and Interstate should have been street level retail with parking beneath and 20-some units of affordable housing above (much like the very workable design of Whole Foods in the Pearl). 

The owners of New Seasons didn&#039;t want to make that investment in the neighborhood, so they cut a back-room deal that allowed them to transfer the low-income housing units to a project in outer Southeast Portland and build a surface parking lot adjacent to a transit stop.

New Seasons presented this as a &quot;take it or leave it&quot; proposition, and city planners (and the local neighborhood associations) &quot;took it&quot; for fear that New Seasons wouldn&#039;t build if they had to invest enough to fit their development to the vision of high density, transit-oriented architecture.

Maintaining that their customers &quot;don&#039;t take mass transit to do their shopping,&quot; they set the store as far back from the transit stop on their lot as possible, built a parking lot at what was envisioned as a pedestrian-friendly intersection, and displaced 20-odd planned affordable housing units. The net result (besides the displaced housing) is that both the parking lot and store are too small, and the vision of walkable neighborhoods with street level businesses clustered around transit stops is subverted by suburban style, car-oriented architecture. 

Not only does it displace working people; it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;ugly&lt;/em&gt; and moderately dysfunctional (cramped parking and over-crowded retail space with inadequate shelf and storage space). 

There is such a thing as urban renewal without massive displacement. Unfortunately, the Portland Development Commission, the City of Portland, and the local neighborhood associations are either too intimidated or too cowed by business interests to stand up for the working poor, who are increasingly being pushed to the outer east side.

Development and affordable housing are not mutually exclusive; business owners just act that way. And our governing bodies have a tendency to let them get away with it, by way of issuing zoning variances. This is why the black community of Portland gets nervous whenever the PDC starts talking about another urban renewal project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentrification can only be dealt with in terms of urban planning and regulation. For instance, when there is an urban renewal district that changes zoning and displaces low-income housing, what measures are taken to compensate?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one small example:</p>
<p>In the case of the Interstate Corridor Urban Renewal Area (ICURA), New Seasons got a variance that reduced low- and moderate-income housing opportunities in the neighborhood. As zoned and envisioned by planners, that corner lot at Rosa Parks and Interstate should have been street level retail with parking beneath and 20-some units of affordable housing above (much like the very workable design of Whole Foods in the Pearl). </p>
<p>The owners of New Seasons didn&#8217;t want to make that investment in the neighborhood, so they cut a back-room deal that allowed them to transfer the low-income housing units to a project in outer Southeast Portland and build a surface parking lot adjacent to a transit stop.</p>
<p>New Seasons presented this as a &#8220;take it or leave it&#8221; proposition, and city planners (and the local neighborhood associations) &#8220;took it&#8221; for fear that New Seasons wouldn&#8217;t build if they had to invest enough to fit their development to the vision of high density, transit-oriented architecture.</p>
<p>Maintaining that their customers &#8220;don&#8217;t take mass transit to do their shopping,&#8221; they set the store as far back from the transit stop on their lot as possible, built a parking lot at what was envisioned as a pedestrian-friendly intersection, and displaced 20-odd planned affordable housing units. The net result (besides the displaced housing) is that both the parking lot and store are too small, and the vision of walkable neighborhoods with street level businesses clustered around transit stops is subverted by suburban style, car-oriented architecture. </p>
<p>Not only does it displace working people; it&#8217;s <em>ugly</em> and moderately dysfunctional (cramped parking and over-crowded retail space with inadequate shelf and storage space). </p>
<p>There is such a thing as urban renewal without massive displacement. Unfortunately, the Portland Development Commission, the City of Portland, and the local neighborhood associations are either too intimidated or too cowed by business interests to stand up for the working poor, who are increasingly being pushed to the outer east side.</p>
<p>Development and affordable housing are not mutually exclusive; business owners just act that way. And our governing bodies have a tendency to let them get away with it, by way of issuing zoning variances. This is why the black community of Portland gets nervous whenever the PDC starts talking about another urban renewal project.</p>
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		<title>By: MamaToo</title>
		<link>http://morehockeylesswar.org/blog/archive/2007/04/14/the_church_north_portland_and_me_the_atheist/#comment-3865</link>
		<dc:creator>MamaToo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow - very thought-provoking (or just provoking?) entry.  I had no idea the Chapel was another victim to lost ethnicity and history in the area.  Sad, especially since we felt like the forgotten dead the time we ate there.  
&quot;Gentrification&quot; is tossed around a lot in these parts - local articles, preaching, etc... often without solutions or hope.  Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow &#8211; very thought-provoking (or just provoking?) entry.  I had no idea the Chapel was another victim to lost ethnicity and history in the area.  Sad, especially since we felt like the forgotten dead the time we ate there.<br />
&#8220;Gentrification&#8221; is tossed around a lot in these parts &#8211; local articles, preaching, etc&#8230; often without solutions or hope.  Any ideas?</p>
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